Hey, James Jordan has apologized for his “over-heated” comments regarding the PCA. Well . . . kind of . . .
What Mr. Jordan gives with one hand, he takes away with the other. This FV attempt at damage control couldn’t be more transparent. Take a look at Mark T’s latest post and I think you’ll see what I mean.
James Jordan lashes out once again in response to an article posted on Green Bagginses entitled The Discussion Phase Is Clearly Over. Here’s another taste of Mr. Jordan’s shameful behavior.
James Jordan said,
January 17, 2008 at 1:47 pmSome men remain in the PCA because God has told them they have a duty to help the 7000 who have not yet bowed the knee to antichrist. They (The) hatred of the Kingship of Jesus, which characterizes so much of the PCA, is with (worth) fighting. The Reformed faith is that faith includes fiducia, and this is still worth fighting for, regardless of how many antinominian blogs hate it
The FV bunch really should wake up and smell the coffee. The PCA, as well as a few other Reformed and Presbyterian denominations, want them to pack their bags and move on.
You see, these men had a pretty good run as far as thumbing their collective nose at the PCA and our process of dicipline. Now, as the entire Louisiana Presbytery is facing indictment, I believe they’re beginning to realize that they can no longer buck the system because the fangs and claws are coming out like never before.
James Jordan said . . .
The actions of the Star Judicial Chamber of the PCA are so openly wicked and evil, and so totally tyrannical, that is makes the Papacy look like small potatoes by comparison. All Christians in all kinds of churches should be appalled by this tyranny . . .
Well, the Federal Vision saga continues. Don’t miss the posts of Mark T. This guy definately has an inside track on the “doings” of the FV bunch and I really appreciate that. Check out his latest post.
The work I do for a living is such that I am alone and isolated for many hours everyday. My mp3 player is my best friend and I use it to redeem the time. In light of this, let me share with you what I’m listening to these days.
I recently discovered the teachings of Lee Irons. This guy is a great teacher and I look forward to working my way through his sermons and lectures. At the moment, I’m going through his series on covenant theology and his series on the epistle of James. I highly recommend both. Really good stuff. Here’s a link to the audio page. The Upper Register
I’m also listening to Jerome Zanchius. Let me give you another link. You’re gonna love this. There’s much from which to choose. SermonAudio
Notice how I didn’t end that last sentence with a preposition? 
A very timely discussion is taking place over the term “non-elect covenant members” or NECM on Green Bagginses and the Heidelblog
Not too long ago, I had a brief exchange with Wes White of Johannes Weslianus about this term.
Wes said,
Machaira – What term would you use to describe reprobates who have some relation to the covenant? I’m curious not leading you.I said,
In the past I would refer to them as “false professors.” I guess in the grand scheme of covenant theology that may be too simplistic.Wes said,
Jim,
I think we should steer away from the term “non-elect covenant member,” while it could possibly be understood in a right sense, it would seem that it easily would lend itself to the idea that there are non-elect who are actually in the covenant of grace. It would seem that it would lead someone directly toward the very problem that Brannan (Creed or Chaos) brought up.
In my mind, Wes makes a good point. But still, it appears that NECM is a term that’s here to stay. If that’s really the case then it would be helpful for Reformed/Presbyterians and Federal Visionists to know what each side means by their use of it.
Dr. R. Scott Clark of the Heidelblog just posted a good article on this topic that’s a must read.
Does the FV Really Accept the Existence of NECMs
Over at Green Bagginses, Reed raises the question of the status of NECMs (non-elect covenant members) and how the FV views them . . .
There are probably few things more annoying than dealing with an ‘apologist’ who plays fast and loose with the facts in order to make his point. I would say apologists who read church fathers anachronistically are equally annoying. It takes quite a bit of work to untangle the mess they make of the truth. Dr. James White of Alpha & Omega Ministries does just that in his blog entry entitled, Tradition Glasses, Again!
Well . . . here we go again. See post # 6 by “Dozie.”
After all, to be saved in the Protestant culture all that one needs is faith in Jesus Christ. Nothing else, they tell us, is required.
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